ILP Alumni with Concurrent Degrees

Law school is tough enough, why pursue joint degrees? Will this serve Indian Country? Again, we asked our alumni.

  • Robert A. Rosette (’96), Partner and founder of Rosette, LLP
  • Marlene Ray (’97), business manager and philanthropist
  • Perry Riggs (’98), Deputy Executive Director, Navajo Nation Washington Office
  • Theresa Rosier (’98), Deputy General Counsel, Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community
  • Verrin Kewenvoyouma (’04), attorney, business advisor, and owner of Kewenvoyouma Law, PLLC
  • Courtney Monteiro (’06), Senior Vice President, Sovereign Finance, LLC
  • Bartley Harris (’08), Attorney, Four Rivers Indian Legal Services
  • Kris Beecher (2L), student and Chairman of the Board of Commissioners for the Navajo Housing Authority

What is your current occupation and how long have you held that position? 

Theresa Rosier: Deputy General Counsel, Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community.

Marlene Ray: Currently, along with managing two family businesses, my focus has been on philanthropy and volunteering which has included tutoring/mentoring Native American high school students and managing the Ray Jones Scholarship Fund benefiting California Indians pursuing postsecondary higher education. It is a great honor and privilege to be able to encourage and assist young Native people pursuing higher education either in college or trade, planting seeds for generation after generation benefiting their families, their communities and all Native peoples.

Verrin Kewenvoyouma: I am an attorney, business advisor, and owner of Kewenvoyouma Law, PLLC. We are a boutique law firm which provides legal and business counsel to Indian tribes and their enterprises, primarily in the areas of corporate transactions. I have been the sole and managing partner of our firm for nine years. Prior to that, I briefly worked for another boutique law firm, KPMG, and a large national bank doing commercial finance. 

Kris Beecher: I am currently a JD/MBA law student starting my last year of law school in the fall of 2019. Additionally, I also serve as Chairman of the Board of Commissioners for the Navajo Housing Authority, a position I have held since July 2017.

How have your concurrent MBA and JD degrees affected your career? Do you wish you had chosen a different field? 

Theresa Rosier: The dual JD/MBA degree was an extremely helpful degree to obtain prior to starting my career. The additional exposure that I had at the WP Carey School of Business has helped me in the following ways: 1) I am very comfortable with public speaking, and I always credit that the my MBA training, 2) I work in the area of Indian economic development, and the MBA helps me work through the business side of the transactions, even though I am acting in an attorney capacity, and 3) the MBA program’s emphasis on team work has helped me shepherd large projects and manage staff in an effective manner. 

Marlene Ray: As the first member of my Tribe (Table Mountain Rancheria) to graduate from college (Stanford University) and then to pursue a professional degree, I decided to pursue a joint JD/MBA degree because of the legal issues and business interests that Tribes encounter and knowing in some way I would be representing and advocating for Native peoples or businesses in my career and personal life. At the time, I thought a business degree would complement and enhance my participation in the Indian Legal Program and my interest in environmental and natural resources law, a decision that was proven true for me.

After graduation from law school, I returned to Alaska to work on an environmental case in the legal department at BP Exploration (Alaska), a company I had worked for during college summers. My focus in law school in environmental and natural resources law were a great foundation for my work and interests in Alaska. From Alaska, I moved to Portland, Oregon, to pursue an L.L.M. in Environmental and Natural Resources Law at Lewis and Clark Law School.  Although I did not finish the program, I gained greater knowledge of the natural resources issues facing Tribes in the northwest as well as a new perspective on the economic, historical and legal context of Tribes in the northwest.  Upon returning to California, I was elected onto my Tribe’s board of directors at our casino, an experience that engaged the knowledge I had garnered from law school and business school as well as my previous work.

Verrin Kewenvoyouma: While law school and experience can train you to become a good lawyer, neither legal experience nor law school train you to be a good business person. My MBA has been instrumental for me to not only manage my own firm, but to provide fully competent business advice to my clients. My joint degrees have paid off ten-fold: I have been able to raise my family (and extended family), doing the job I love, and now have opportunities to create opportunity within my own community and the communities within which I work. In short, my own career has been a means to an ends to create opportunity not only for myself, but to empower others as well. When you combine business and legal experience it is not zero sum game: you will find ways to create value for your clients and the people with whom they do business.

Kris Beecher: While working on these degrees I have had the benefit of taking certain aspects of what

I have learned in both disciplines and applying them in near real-time to my duties as a commissioner. I do not believe that I could have picked a better match as far as my education and the direction of my career.

In what ways do you use your knowledge of law in your career and everyday life? 

Theresa Rosier: I am an attorney and work with the law every day. I often say, that I am professional problem solver. Most of my day is working across the table with experts from various fields who all are working towards a common goal/result.  We have to work together to get that project or goal done for the client. 

Marlene Ray: Throughout the years, all of my professional and personal experiences have in some way been enriched and informed by the degrees I earned at Stanford University, ASU Law and ASU W.P. Carey School of Business as well as by the people, mentors, classmates and colleagues I’ve met as a result of attending college, law school and business school.  As I mentor young Native students either getting ready to begin college or considering a post-graduate degree, I encourage them to consider their vast array of options, research different programs and schools, talk with current students in the program or school they’re considering, visit the program in action, figure out a budget, know there are people and resources to help them, and most importantly, to believe in themselves that their heart’s desire is important, worthy and possible.

Verrin Kewenvoyouma: A wise lawyer once told me, “you can not become a good business and transaction lawyer unless you’ve done some litigation in those areas as well.”  Even in scenarios where all parties have the best of intentions, as lawyers, we are trained to see the world in the most challenging ways and draft to those situations.  Indeed, in litigation contract matters I have seen those situations come to life.  While we can’t move through the world walking on egg shells, I’ve found that no matter the scenario, business, law, or otherwise, if you approach a situation recognizing all foreseeable options, very importantly, the solutions as well, you’ll be well prepared for anything.  In short, think of all the challenges and benefits of your decisions, and be prepared. 

Kris Beecher: Whether I am working on projects as a commissioner or advocating for issues that I care about, my knowledge of the law informs my decisions and the way I approach potential situations. With a background in both business and law, I have a much broader range of understanding of why and how people and businesses make the decisions they do.

Would you recommend a law degree or concurrent degrees to prospective students? What would you say to a student considering earning these degrees? 

Theresa Rosier: I ask people what they really want to do, if they tell me that they want to be a prosecutor, litigator, tax attorney, etc., then, I recommend that they only attend the law school. If people talk about promoting business in underserved communities, working with non-profits, or they are more open minded in their professional goals, I recommend that they explore either the joint degree or the MBA degree (without the legal degree). The MBA program at ASU is fantastic, and can open so many doors to people. If you want to be a litigator, the MBA program doesn’t add a lot of value.  If you want to work in an in-house setting or in the commercial transaction setting, the MBA is extremely helpful.M

Verrin Kewenvoyouma: I highly recommend the joint JD and MBA program for anyone who may be pursuing a career in business, business law, or seeks to manage a firm. While I can attach a price tag to the one extra year I spent in grad school to earn my MBA, the value has been immeasurable and continues to pay off. I would also be happy to speak to any student who may be considering these degrees. 

Kris Beecher: I would absolutely recommend any prospective JD student to consider any of the concurrent degrees available at their school. A great way to set yourself apart from the rest of the law students you will be graduating with is earning a concurrent degree. Having a broader background of education would only be an asset moving forward.

Anything else you’d like to add?

Verrin Kewenvoyouma: Much of law school is structured on the individual, and that make sense: you are the only one who has to take the LSAT and pass the bar exam.  The analytical skills you learn have to be developed on an individual basis.  However, in business school, much like life and in a law practice, there is definitely much more comradery and team orientated projects.  You quickly learn how to leverage your own strengths and weaknesses to work with other people for the best outcome of your collective colleagues and clients.  I think the experience of both programs creates a good contrast of what you should experience in life after school and in practice.  Along those lines, the relationships I made in both programs, and especially in the ILP, I still value very much today.  On a daily basis I work with folks who were graduates of the program, and today, in fact, I’ve spoken to no less than four ASU ILP grads on varying matters. 

Kris Beecher: If I could go back and do it all over again, I would make the exact same decision to pursue a JD/MBA. In fact, I would probably advocate harder for more of my colleagues in law school to pursue the MBA component.

Native American Pipeline to Law Workshop at UC Berkeley: Still Accepting Applications

This is a great opportunity for students to learn about law school, admissions criteria, LSAT prep, and more. Registration is free, food and lodging is provided, and a limited number of LSAT Prep courses will be available for participating students. It does not matter which school the student wishes to attend: these sessions are geared to help all students. 

Date: June 26-30, 2019
Location: UC Berkeley School of Law
                 Boalt Hall, 225 Bancroft Way, Berkeley, CA 94720 (map)
For more information, visit: law.asu.edu/pipelinetolaw
Deadline: May 1, 2019
Questions? Contact Kate Rosier at 480-965-6204

Read about current law students who completed one of the Pipeline to Law Workshops and highly encourage others to register and participate. Read their stories.

April Olson (JD ’06) Lunch Lecture – Recording

Guest speaker and ILP alum, April Olson (’06) gave an insightful lecture, “A Story from the Standing Rock protest: Prosecution and defense of a water protector.”

In 2016, the fight for clean water and the indigenous led resistance to the Dakota Access Pipeline (DAPL) caught the attention of the world. At the heart of the movement, was opposition to the DAPL, a pipeline projected to run close to the Standing Rock Reservation that threatened its clean water and sacred sites. No-DAPL demonstrators drew the ire of officials and law enforcement and numerous individuals engaging in peaceful protests were arrested and prosecuted for serious crimes in state and federal courts. This presentation talked about one of the many stories from Standing Rock and will follow the prosecution of one water protector from his arrest to his challenge before the North Dakota Supreme Court. Please see Corrected Opinion in North Dakota Supreme Court No. 20180171 (State v. Herbert) if you want to read more about the case.

To listen to recording, click here.

Student Reflection – Pipeline to Law Initiative

With this summer’s Pipeline to Law Workshop quickly approaching, the ILP reached out to previous attendees of the program for their advice and opinions of the workshop. If their testimonials interest you, apply here.

Five current Indian Legal Program 2L students, Kris Beecher (Navajo), Candace Begody (Navajo), Janet Bill (Chukchansi), Brian Garcia (Pascua Yaqui), and Irvin Williams (Navajo), give their reflections on their experience on the Native American Pipeline to Law Initiative.

Kris Beecher: “One of the most beneficial things I did to get ready to apply for law school was attend the Pipeline to Law workshop. With no one in my family ever having been to law school, I had to look to outside resources to get the facts on applying. All the facts and more were made available to me, and the mentorship and advice from lawyers, law school students, and faculty were crucial in applying and being accepted to law school. By attending the Pipeline to Law workshop my LSAT score was better, my personal statement was stronger, and my application to my dream school was the best that it could be. I would recommend any Native American students interested in pursuing their dream of going to law school to take the time to get the facts and support, and attend the Pipeline to Law workshop.”

Candace Begody: “The Pipeline to Law Program helped me to plan out a timeline that worked for me that would increase my chances of getting into a law school. I sat down with people who sat on admissions teams who have me advice on how to make my application stronger but also gave me insight into what schools were looking for to make me a stronger candidate. The program was truly instrumental in my law school admissions process – they made it realistic and worked with me to make it a smooth process.”

Janet Bill: “My experience with the Native American Pipeline to Law program was beyond my expectations. I would not have been able to navigate the law school application process without this program. I was able to create a more competitive application and get accepted to the law school of my choice.”

 

 

Brian Garcia: “The pipeline program established the essential critical foundation to be considered a viable Native law school applicant. The program helped empower and truly prepare me for the realities of the process.”

 

 

 

Irvin Williams: “I participated in the workshop that was held at Michigan State University in the fall of 2016. I appreciated the program paying for my room. I also enjoyed meeting other law school applicants since we were all in the same boat.

I found value in the Indian professors talking about Indian Law and the participants being able to ask them questions about anything. A summary on the application process was informative. A quick strategy on LSAT taking was insightful. Overall, the program kept me motivated on my Law School endeavor.

Take it sooner rather than later, so that you have ample time to prepare your law school application and prep for the LSAT.”

Additionally, four first year and current students enrolled in other law schools benefited from the Pipeline to Law Workshop. MacArthur L. Stant II (University of New Mexico), Krista Thompson (University of New Mexico), Cassondra Church (Michigan State University) and Grace Carson (University of California, Los Angeles) attended the Pipeline to Law Initiative.

MacArthur L. Stant II: “My experience with the Pipeline to Law Workshop was incredible. My complete experience was so refreshing and meaningful. There were so many positive relationships that I made at the workshop. First, there were the other participants. To meet with so many like-minded Natives Americans who were interested in law school provided me with a support group that continued with me throughout the law school application process. Then the workshop coordinators were true mentors, who not only worked in the law school admission field they were also Native American as well. The atmosphere was a welcoming and cordial one. I had thought about applying to law school for a long time and had serious doubts about it, my PTL Workshop experience was the encouragement and confidence that I needed to realize that I could get into law school.

The information that I found most important about the PTL Workshop was the law school application timeline. Being made aware of the timeline encompassed all of the application parts and how to most effectively approach the law school application process. By using the application timeline that the PTL workshop presented I understood when to take the LSAT, when to get recommendations, when to write a personal statement, and most importantly when to submit an application. The PTL Workshop showed me that using an application timeline would result in my most competitive law school application.

In you are interested in applying to law school, there is nothing I recommend more that attending the PTL Workshop. The PTL Workshop was able to show me what I should do in order for me to have the best chance possible of being accepted into law school. Even though I thought I understood the college admissions process, law school admissions require a different approach. I was unaware of the nature of a law school application and the PTL workshop put me on a track that was clear and accurate to guide me through this complex process. I know that I needed help to create a competitive law school application and the PTL Workshop made law school a real possibility for me. What was so assuring was that the coordinators and presenters were also Native American, and I knew that they had been where I wanted to go, and they wanted to make law school possible for me. I whole heartily recommend and encourage you to attend the PTL Workshop, if you are interested in law school this is the best step you can take.”

Krista Thompson:My experience at the PTL Workshop was intense, but invaluable to my law school admissions process. During the workshop I received amazing feedback that saved me so much time on my personal statement. The workshop also acquainted me with the admissions timeline. I had no idea how much work and timing the process required.

The most important aspect of the PTL was the personal statement workshop. I was able to get feedback from 3 different perspectives, and I saved so much time on editing and figuring out what my schools wanted.

I always recommend interested students to attend the workshop. There are so many aspects to the admissions process, it’s too easy to get behind or lost if you don’t understand your strengths and what law schools are looking for.”

Cassondra Church:I attended the Pipeline to Law Workshop in August 2016 at Michigan State University College of Law a year after I graduated with my undergraduate degree. At this point in my life I had already been accepted the Masters of Social Work (MSW) program at Michigan State University, but was still interested in attending law school. At the time, I thought that I wanted to participate in the dual MSW/JD program, however, I did not fully understand how to navigate the law school admission process. Attending the Pipeline to Law Workshop was a tremendously beneficial opportunity. In the Pipeline to Law Workshop I learned about the law school admission process, what the law school experience was like, how to pay for law school, strategies for doing well on the LSAT, and career opportunities for Native American attorneys. Not only did I gain a plethora of knowledge and skills, but I also had the pleasure of meeting several professors that specialized in Indigenous law and other aspiring Native American Law students. This Workshop helped me realize that law school was attainable and gave me the necessary tools and information needed to begin my law school journey.

The information that I found the most helpful were the presentations on the law school admissions process. The law school admissions process was nothing like I had ever experienced before and was extremely intimidating. When I attended the Pipeline to Law Workshop I understood some of the components of the application process, however I was unsure how they all fit together. The Pipeline to Law Workshop not only helped me understand the process, but it also provided me with other helpful tools such as an admission timeline, tips for writing a competitive personal statement, LSAT practice, and examples of what law school admission representatives were looking for in applications. 

 

I would highly recommend Pipeline to Law Workshop to anyone interested in law school. This Workshop provided me with several valuable tools and resources that helped me throughout my law school journey. The Pipeline to Law Workshop provided insight on topics ranging from the application process to finding a career as an attorney.”

 

Grace Carson: “The PTL workshop was a great experience. It was a wonderful opportunity not only to find the resources I needed for the law school application process, but in finding a community of Native students and adults in the same process as I am. It was a great opportunity to find a supportive community in the law school application process.

There was so much useful information given at the workshop, it’s hard to say what was most important. Honestly, without the workshop, I would have been lost about the law school application process. I think the two most helpful parts of the workshop was: 1) The LSAT prep course the program paid for, and 2) The personal statement building. Without taking the LSAT prep course, I would not have been able to prepare myself as efficiently and probably wouldn’t have gotten the score I did. The personal statement building made me aware of what law school admissions are looking for in these essays, and how to write the most compelling statement possible.

Even if they’re not sure that law school is right for them, this workshop gives people an idea about what law school will be like. And if they are certain or decide to attend law school, the workshop outlines the entire law school application process and exactly how to prepare for it. The PTL Workshop was essential in my acceptance to UCLA School of Law for next fall.”

There is still time to apply for the Pipeline to Law Workshop at University of California Berkeley Law. Attendees will participate in a 5-day workshop that helps assist students like those above to prepare for their careers and studies. Apply before May 1 here.

Alumni Advice – Udall Alumni

AThe Indian Legal Program is always looking to expand our ILP family’s opportunities to network and gain experience in the legal profession. By networking with the Udall Foundation, we can show students more opportunities to participate in Indian Law programs across the country. Alumni Chia Halpern Beetso (’08), Julian Nava (’10) Jacqueline Bisille (MLS ’14), all completed the Udall Internship, along with current students Cynthia Freeman (2L), Christina Andrews (3L) and DesiRae Deschine (3L). The ILP asked these six Udall Alumni to share some advice to current or future students through their experience participating in the Udall Summer Internship Program.

“After completing my undergraduate degree, I was accepted
into the Udall Foundation Congressional Native American Internship Program,”
Sarah
Crawford
(3L) said. “This opportunity gave me my first hard
look at the legislation and policy at play… The Udall Foundation also provided
additional opportunities to visit and learn from a variety of agencies, law
firms, and organizations that focus on Indian Country policies. The Program
also provides housing and travel expenses which greatly reduced the burdens
that prevents many Native individuals from pursuing a summer internship in
Washington, D.C.”

Q:
When did you intern at Udall and why did you apply?

Chia
Halpern Beetso: “I participated in the
Udall Foundation Native American Congressional Internship during the summer of
2007. I applied because I always wanted to intern in a U.S. Congressional
office and heard so many great things about the program. I also had friends who
really enjoyed their experiences while participating in the Udall Internship as
well.”

Julian
Nava:
“I was a Congressional Intern through the Udall program in the
summer of 2006. I applied because I wanted an insider’s view of our Nation’s
federal government i.e. how policies & laws are formed and money is
appropriated, especially as it applies to tribal governments and tribal
programs. I was also very interested in the history of U.S. laws and policies
directly aimed at American Indian tribes, so I thought, what better place to
learn about that dynamic (past, present, future) than at the center of U.S. law
and policy.”

Cynthia
Freeman:
“I was a Udall intern in 2006. I applied because the Udall
internship program provided a unique opportunity for me to work in Congress and
to learn more about tribal laws and policies.”

Jacqueline
Bisille:
“I interned during the summer of 2014 in the
late Senator John McCain’s office. While living in Arizona, I interned with
various organizations and a local government on issues that affected Arizona
Tribes. While I enjoyed my time with those offices, I never had the chance to
work on policy issues that involved the Federal government and Indian Tribes.
When I heard about the Udall Internship in D.C., I knew it was an opportunity
to not pass up so I prepared my application, sent it in, and waited for the
Foundation’s decision.”

Christina Andrews: “I interned summer
2017. I interned at Udall
because I wanted to learn about the United States’ legislative process and its
impact in Indian Country. I wanted to know if I had a place at the U.S.
government area. I applied because of
the prestige of being a Udall Intern and the doors it would open up for me.”

DesiRae
Deschine:
“In 2017, I was a 1L when I was selected for the
Udall Foundation Native American Congressional Internship. I wanted the legal
work experience within a federal agency and to gain an inside look at the
regulatory process of federal Indian law. In addition, I wanted to be a Udall
Intern so that I could live and experience Washington D.C. with a cohort of
other Native American students.”

Q:
What was the experience like and what was the most valuable thing you learned?

Chia
Halpern Beetso: “I had the
best summer. I was in the office of the Senate Committee on Indian Affairs and
was able to help plan and attend committee hearings. I got to see first-hand
how legislation is drafted and passed. I was also fortunate enough to work on an
issue that my own tribe needed assistance with. The most valuable thing I
learned was to take the initiative to pursue my professional goals.”

Julian
Nava:
“I had a wonderful experience that I will cherish for a
lifetime. The most valuable lessons that I learned during my internship was how
important relationship building is, including, building relationships with
those people who agree and understand your views and interests as well as those
people who do not. Your ability to communicate and be inquisitive is vital to a
successful experience.”

Jacqueline
Bisille:
“The experience was unforgettable because it
gave me the opportunity to learn more about a career that I wanted to work in.
I’d say the most valuable thing I learned was how Congress moves legislation
through both chambers. The process is fascinating and continues to challenge me
in unique ways each day while working for the SCIA.”

Cynthia
Freeman:
“The experience was rewarding; it provided me with numerous
opportunities to network with tribal leaders and tribal advocates, meet
Congressional leaders, and forge lifetime friendships. The most valuable thing
I learned was the importance of having tribal representation within Congress,
both at the leadership and staff levels.”

Christina
Andrews:
“The experience was more than I could have ever imagined. I
was able to see the place where the Nation’s decisions were made. I learned
about how law is made and passed; toured the White House and legislative buildings;
helped create a bill and walk it through the process for consideration at the
floor; I met many people who are advocating for Indian issues; I learned about
being a leader and advocate for Indian Country; and finally, I built a lifelong
cohort with other Udallers.  We still remain connected.”

DesiRae
Deschine:
“Interning with the Department of the Interior
as a Native American Congressional Intern was invaluable. I received great
mentorship and substantive legal work assignments from my internship placement.
In addition to the work experience, I was exposed to other federal agencies,
congressional offices, and non-profit organizations that share similar goals
related to Native American communities and Tribes. Through this experience I
strengthened my legal writing skills and as a result felt capable and ready to
spend a full-semester in Washington, D.C. as a 3L with the D.C. Externship
Program through the Sandra Day O’Connor College of Law.”

Q:
Would you recommend this program to other students? If so why?

Chia
Halpern Beetso: “I would definitely
recommend this program to current students. It is a great chance to have a paid
internship in Washington DC which isn’t always an option for many people. You
often get to work on Native issues and have opportunities to attend hearings,
meetings and receptions with various leaders in Washington DC. It can lead to
job opportunities and truly is a learning experience.”

Julian
Nava:
“I would absolutely recommend this program because this
program gives a hands-on experience that will hopefully provide students with a
better understanding of how law and policy is formed, how the system works in
real time and how they can eventually be a part of that system and/or change.”

Jacqueline
Bisille:
“I definitely would recommend the internship
program to any ILP student thinking about working on tribal issues. In some way
or another, a tribal government will likely have to work with Congress or the
Administration and it’s good to have an idea of what goes on in DC.”

Cynthia
Freeman:
“Yes, I highly recommend this program to any student who is
interested in learning about federal Indian policy and would like to work in
Washington, D.C. As a participant, you will gain valuable insight into the
legislative process as it pertains to tribal nations.”

Christina
Andrews:
“I was intimidated about DC, but now after going
through the program, I have more confidence having spent the summer at DC. Also,
this program challenged myself as an older student that I still have a lot to contribute,
and I plan to do just that.”

DesiRae
Deschine:
“I absolutely recommend the Udall Foundation Native American
Congressional Internship program to students that are interested in learning
more about the government-to-government relationship between Tribes and the
federal government and working for a congressional office or a federal agency
in Washington, D.C. Being a Native American Congressional Intern was a unique
experience and through the program I gained access to a network of Native
American professionals who are contributing to strengthening Indian Country.
Furthermore, I recommend the Native American Congressional Internship program
because of the support that the Udall Foundation provides to each student that
makes living and working in Washington, D.C. possible.”

Cynthia
Freeman (left) in 2006 and DesiRae Deschine and Christina Andrews (right) in
2018

Q:
For students who want to apply, what advice would you give them?

Chia
Halpern Beetso: “I would advise students to
review their essays a couple times prior to submitting the application. Also,
to clearly explain why this experience will benefit them in their goal of
working on tribal policy and make the connection as to why this internship is
the next logical step in their trajectory.”

Jacqueline
Bisille:
“My advice for students considering in applying
is to not procrastinate on your application. I’ve heard that the review
committee can tell what applications were lazily put together from others that
include well written essays. My last bit of advice for any student considering
the internship program would be to go, if accepted, because they will be
sharing these experiences with 11 other Native students, and have memories for
a lifetime. A few of the Udall interns in my class live in DC and have become
some of my closest friends. A bit cheesy, I know, but also one of the best
things about the program and why I’m happy to have done it.”

Julian
Nava:
“Be inquisitive, ask questions (1,000 + perhaps), be
involved, explore, be willing to learn, sightsee, be adventurous, network and
tell your story.  People are very interested in your story. Tell it.”

Cynthia
Freeman:
“If you are considering applying, then it is very important
that you have someone (a professor or mentor) review your application
materials. I highly recommend talking with the Udall program or alumni, if you
have any questions about the internship program or the application process.”

Christina
Andrews:
“For students who what to apply, I would advise
them to take the application serious. Make sure you give well thought out
answers; dig deep for your answers; don’t feel intimidated; and ask
questions. Make sure to reach out to others who have gone through the
program for help.”

DesiRae
Deschine:
“Students interested in the Native American Congressional
Internship should reach out to alumni of the internship program and the Program
Manager to learn more about the program and to receive individualized advice
about the application process. Students should also work on their application
ahead of time, research the contributions of Morris K. Udall and Stewart L.
Udall to Indian Country, and seek out critical feedback on their essay.”

Find out more information about the Udall Foundation’s internships here.

Photos provided by students & alumni.

Alum Advice: Ken Truitt

ILP Alum Ken Truitt has had experience in various legal positions since he graduated from ASU Law in 1992. Now working as the chief operating officer of Tribal Operations for the Central Council of Tlingit and Haida Tribes of Alaska, he oversees most of the Tribe’s programs. The ILP asked Ken to share some advice to current students as an insight into what helped lead him on his journey after graduation.


Q: What is your advice for current students?

A: “Several things come to mind.  First, and not necessarily legally related but it could really help you map out your career after school:  The Gallup organization has done decades worth of deep research into what makes good leaders good.  The research has led to several books, perhaps the best known is “Strengths Based Leadership.”  Along with the book is an online assessment tool that you get access to for buying the book.  The tool is a leadership strength diagnostic survey and is remarkably accurate at assessing your particular leadership and vocational strengths.  I wished I had come across this as a young professional starting out.  It would have helped me understand why some courses and areas in the law seem to come easy to me and why some did not.  Having a keen sense of your unique strengths early will help you in every job interview you get called for and it will help you analyze job announcements and see that some of them are not for you.

Second, recognize that law school primarily teaches you to be a life-long learner.  The law changes every day and when you are out practicing it will not be the same as it was when you were in school.  Again, this is a strategic advantage because not all other professional disciplines teach life-long learning as a component of the pedagogy.  This absolute need to staying fresh and sharp is a competitive advantage lawyers have over other professionals especially if you find yourself transitioning into non-legal executive roles.

Third, learn how to transition.  I mentioned life-long learning, here’s another way it can really help you throughout your career.  Sometimes when you get into other non-legal roles, like management, what makes you a good lawyer is not automatically going to make you great in your new non-legal role.  You will need to have an awareness of this, analyze the new role’s demands and commit to learning the new required skills and learning what parts of being a lawyer will hamper your performance there (here’s a hint, nobody likes being cross-examined, not on the stand and especially not in the workplace, ever).

Finally, learn how to network and network relentlessly.  Some of the bumps I mentioned earlier could have been much more smooth had I recognized the need to network.  Networking used to seem to me a smarmy exercise that overly ambitious and insincere people did to put themselves first in all circumstances. And as an introvert by nature I recoiled from it as well.  But networking is as simple as taking an interest in people, and then staying in touch and connected with them.  Sadly, I came to this realization late and I am working on improving in this area.”

Q: Is there anything you’ve learned after graduating that you wished you learned in class?

A: “When I was working in the state Attorney General’s Office I was lucky enough to attend one of the regional trial training programs from the National Institute of Trial Advocacy (NITA).  The NITA program is an 11 – 14 day trial and lecture program where you get intense trial advocacy classroom lectures for the first few days along with mock opening statements and closing arguments.  And then given material to prepare and present a case before a live jury in a real courtroom with a real judge.  Early on, the mock statements are videoed and your peers and instructors, who are all trial lawyers, critique your video performance.  Being forced to watch yourself and listen to your peers’ critique is an amazingly effective way to detect vocal and body language faults and correct them.

Being forced to prepare for a trial brings home all the law school work like nothing I had experienced prior.  The rules of evidence and civil/criminal procedure, discovery review all come into focus in that 11-14 day time frame.   I was surprised as I moved into the [general counsel] role how much the NITA training increased my competency in a non-trial role.  I was able to see almost immediately evidentiary priorities as issues presented themselves that could potentially lead to litigation.  There was something to having to go through discovery and find evidence to meet the burden of proof on every element of the case, and then present that case convincingly that brought all disciplines of law into sharp focus. Having had that, I could spot issues and prioritize them much more quickly than before I had the training.

I didn’t participate in any clinical programs while at school and I don’t recall how robust the trial clinic programs were when I was at ASU, but I wished I had availed myself of whatever was available.

ASU NALSA Chapter of the Year 2018

As 2018 comes to a close, the ILP reflects on some of the biggest moments for our community. ASU NALSA won NNALSA Chapter of the Year in April 2018. NNALSA President Sarah Crawford (3L) has been working the whole year on expanding opportunities for the club and the community as a whole.

2018 held a lot of success for ASU NALSA, which opens up future opportunity and success for the club. View their Chapter of the Year Bid here, which shows their accomplishments in the past year.

 

“As a Native law student, I have benefited and loved the strong support system with fellow Native law students,” Sarah said. “I wish to ensure that all Native law students have a sense of this unity.”

Thank You from the ILP 2018

The ILP was able to exceed our goal of 118 donors, raising over $30,000 in donations, through the Pitchfunder campaign for our 30th anniversary. In our new era of self-sufficiency, your donations are more important than ever. The ILP hopes to continue to expand program opportunities for our amazing students through your generous donations and provide scholarships and accessibility to many more students to come.

To the friends of the ILP, this video comes from all of ILP’s students, staff and faculty as a huge thank you for always supporting our program! The people shown are only a handful of the students and faculty that your donations will benefit.

We’d also like to wish our ILP family happy holidays and happy new year! If you’re still in the spirit of giving, it’s not too late to donate to the ILP before 2018 ends. Donate here. Thank you for your contribution!